How Molson Coors Balances Tradition and Innovation to Stay Ahead with Brad Feinberg

[00:00:01] We look at where consumers are spending their time. We look at reaching the next generation of legal drinking age consumers as well and where they're spending their time. And it shouldn't be a shock to most that they're not spending as much time in front of a linear TV cable TV channel as they often were.

[00:00:22] To thrive in a rapidly evolving landscape, brands must move at an ever increasing pace. I'm Matt Britton, founder and CEO of Suzy. Join me and key industry leaders as we dive deep into the shifting consumer trends within their industry, why it matters now, and how you can keep up. Welcome to The Speed of Culture.

[00:00:44] Up today on The Speed of Culture, we're joined by Brad Feinberg, the North American VP of Media and Consumer Engagement at Molson Coors.

[00:00:50] Brad has led transformative initiatives for some of the most iconic beverage brands, from Coors Light to Milleral High Life. And he's here to give us an insider's look at how Molson Coors is innovating to keep up with the pace of modern culture. Brad, great seeing you today.

[00:01:03] Brad Feinberg, Thanks for having me.

[00:01:04] Brad Feinberg, Absolutely. So we're here at Media Week in New York City. How much time are you spending going to conferences like this? And what do you get out of them?

[00:01:11] Brad Feinberg, Probably, I mean not a large percentage of my time. I probably spend maybe a handful of conferences that I go to over the course of the year.

[00:01:19] Brad Feinberg, Ones that I think that are meaningful, that have opportunities to learn something new, to bring things back to the business, as well as to meet colleagues, attend board meetings, or be inspired.

[00:01:33] Brad Feinberg, Yeah. And when you're at events like this, or you're just talking to people in the industry at large, what are some of the things that are on top of everyone's mind heading into 2025 relative to the media landscape?

[00:01:44] Brad Feinberg, I'm sure the word that comes out most frequently is AI.

[00:01:48] Brad Feinberg, But I would just say that changing media landscape in overall, and just the thinking of like how marketing organizations are transforming, modernizing capabilities, and really having a kind of a foot into what the future may look like in terms of the types of capabilities, both marketing organizations, both internally and agencies externally need to build.

[00:02:14] Brad Feinberg, Yeah. And in this modern era, obviously it's so fragmented, but there's still some traditional mediums that are incredibly effective.

[00:02:22] Brad Feinberg, Sure.

[00:02:22] Brad Feinberg, So if you look at like the NFL, it's the most watched live program every year usually is like 80 to 90.

[00:02:27] Brad Feinberg, Yeah, I know you are.

[00:02:28] Brad Feinberg, Of the top, the audience might not be in terms of like 80 to 90 at the top 100 most live watches against males and females in the NFL.

[00:02:35] Brad Feinberg, Yeah, that's right.

[00:02:35] Brad Feinberg, So let's talk about television and how that plays an important role for your brands.

[00:02:40] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:02:40] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:02:40] Brad Feinberg, I mean, it has evolved over time as you would expect.

[00:02:44] And I like to think of my role and what we look at is the intersection between consumer interests and choice and where we think we're going to sell or we're going to create a meaningful exposure to our brands to sell more product.

[00:03:01] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:03:01] Brad Feinberg, So it starts with the consumer at the center.

[00:03:03] Brad Feinberg, And so we look at where consumers are spending their time.

[00:03:07] Brad Feinberg, We look at reaching the next generation of legal drinking age consumers as well and where they're spending their time.

[00:03:14] Brad Feinberg, And it shouldn't be a shock to most that they're not spending as much time in front of a linear TV cable TV channel as they often were.

[00:03:23] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:03:23] Brad Feinberg, And so we're reflecting that through the way we kind of go to market and the way we buy media.

[00:03:28] Brad Feinberg, And yes, linear TV plays a role. Those big culture moments, whether it's live sports or big events that happen on TV are definitely kind of mainstays for our category and where we're the most relevant.

[00:03:42] Other parts of linear TV are less relevant to where they were.

[00:03:47] Brad Feinberg, Sure. Time shifted.

[00:03:47] Brad Feinberg, Correct. The time shifted and or just not appropriate for that 21 to 25 year old as it once was.

[00:03:54] Brad Feinberg, You're just not getting them consuming as much of that kind of traditional media as they once previous generations have. And so our media investments has shifted to meet the needs of the consumer.

[00:04:05] Brad Feinberg, Yeah. And when you talk about a 21 to 25 year old, that is Gen Z now.

[00:04:09] Brad Feinberg, Correct.

[00:04:09] Brad Feinberg, And you know, so people think of young people as millennials. Millennials are older now.

[00:04:14] Brad Feinberg, That's right.

[00:04:14] Brad Feinberg, And the thing that distinguishes Gen Z is they were the first generation to go up with the iPhone in the household and the smartphone at large,

[00:04:20] which means that they have a predisposition to staring at their phone for almost anything.

[00:04:25] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:04:25] Brad Feinberg, And when consumers are on their phone, they're normally looking at content not from traditional broadcast mediums, but from other people.

[00:04:31] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:04:32] Brad Feinberg, Which is where the creator economy comes from.

[00:04:33] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:04:33] Brad Feinberg, So how has that played a role in your overall strategy?

[00:04:36] Brad Feinberg, It plays a role though.

[00:04:38] Brad Feinberg, It's an evolving approach and strategy for our business and how we think about it.

[00:04:43] Brad Feinberg, And I would say definitely we have partnerships with celebrities, especially in the area of music and sports, where I would describe them more as like tastemaker, more influencers than like creators that are just creating tons of content.

[00:04:58] Brad Feinberg, And we have found very effective ways to reach audiences through those partnerships that manifest their way onto those social media platforms and tap into their audiences when available.

[00:05:12] Brad Feinberg, So things such as partnerships we've had with like Lainey Wilson on Coors Light is a good example, or we sponsor her tour or Patrick Mahomes, probably the most recognizable, well-known NFL star today.

[00:05:25] Brad Feinberg, Yes.

[00:05:25] Brad Feinberg, We've done some stuff with him, as well as other talent and celebrities across the gamut that show up on social media that create this opportunity for consumers when they are scrolling those 21 to 25 year olds, as you mentioned.

[00:05:40] Brad Feinberg, And it creates a bit of a stopping power and an opportunity to kind of try to understand what's going on and bring our brands to life in a different way.

[00:05:49] Brad Feinberg, So when you decide to move ahead with some of the celebrities you mentioned, like Patrick Mahomes, how much data is driving that decision in terms of how their audience and I guess their aesthetic and the things that they're interested in and how it overlaps with your customer?

[00:06:05] Brad Feinberg, So I think in my opinion, and I think when we look at it overall holistically as a company too, we're really looking for authentic partnerships.

[00:06:21] Brad Feinberg, We find and work with talents that have like an inherent interest in the brand or maybe have a previous kind of like experience with the brand or love of the brand.

[00:06:31] Brad Feinberg, You can't fake that right?

[00:06:34] Brad Feinberg, Yeah.

[00:06:34] Brad Feinberg, And so you see that come to life through the talent that I have partnerships with and people like Patrick Mahomes and others love the brands.

[00:06:44] Brad Feinberg, And so because of that, it just comes through so well in the type of work that we do with them.

[00:06:49] Brad Feinberg, Yeah. And besides, obviously sports music is another huge touch point.

[00:06:53] Brad Feinberg, Yeah, that's right.

[00:06:53] Brad Feinberg, I know Miller High Life recently had a collaboration with Teddy Swims.

[00:06:56] Brad Feinberg, Correct.

[00:06:56] Brad Feinberg, I'm a big fan of and obviously it's an interesting approach. Music has become so much more fragmented over the years.

[00:07:02] Brad Feinberg, Sure.

[00:07:02] Brad Feinberg, Like Spotify, but there are still people that can corral a large enough audience.

[00:07:06] Brad Feinberg, That's right.

[00:07:06] Brad Feinberg, That makes sense. So I guess talk to us a little bit about that partnership.

[00:07:09] Brad Feinberg, Yeah. I mean, that goes to my earlier point. So interestingly on that, backstory on that is like Teddy Swims reached out to us for partnerships.

[00:07:17] Brad Feinberg, Because he's a fan of the brand.

[00:07:17] Brad Feinberg, Because he loves the Miller High Life brand, has always loved the brand since he's been of age. It's something that I think he was quoted as saying that his father loved as well. So like he's got some kind of inherent heritage and like interest in it. So because of that, it was kind of an easy way to kind of like work with a partner with a well known celebrity and talent. And again, he wants to go out and promote the brand because of his love of the brand.

[00:07:42] Brad Feinberg, Right.

[00:07:43] Brad Feinberg, Like it's a win-win for him because he gets the benefits of partnership. It's a win-win for us because then we get that borrowed equity and that linkage to that. And one of the overlapping interests too for us, and it goes back to like tapping into like a brand's purpose. Miller High Life, really, it's an interesting brand that it taps into. Depending on where you live regionally in the country, it means different things to different people.

[00:08:07] Brad Feinberg, Sure.

[00:08:07] Brad Feinberg, So it can mean this kind of more urban dive bar-y type of feel to it in some markets, but also it's got a really strong rural and suburban appeal as well. It kind of fits a lot of different interests and needs. And it's just a really great legacy heritage type brand. And I think we're fortunate to have someone like Teddy Swims kind of to partner with to kind of bring it to life in the areas that are overlapped with us.

[00:08:34] Yeah. Another interesting partnership that you put together is with TouchTunes, which is kind of like a modern age jukebox in bars. And I thought that was interesting and kind of popped out. Tell us about that one too.

[00:08:44] Yeah. I mean, again, on premise is a huge part of our business where we sell a lot of our products in and around bars and restaurants. So to your point, it's a modern day jukebox is the best way to describe it. What's unique about it, though, it has the opportunity to do advertising opportunities within the platform.

[00:09:04] So we can buy ads in and around as individuals are selecting the music they want to play, kind of those tunes that are available in those individual bars, as well as the fact that we can give away opportunities through promotions and other ways where we can give people credits to also play music in bars.

[00:09:53] So that's why we can give you a lot of us. And I think that's why we can give people a lot of us to the world.

[00:09:59] So you mentioned earlier that Miller High Life is sort of the brand has a different ethos in different markets.

[00:10:04] Yeah. And obviously that speaks to customization and personalization.

[00:10:08] Sure. And one thing that AI, I believe, will be unlocking is the ability for you to have a multitude of messages based upon consumer signals.

[00:10:14] Sure. How is your company looking at personalization in that realm?

[00:10:18] We're very much tip of the spear, just trying to build and think through all the use cases for building personalization through artificial intelligence or some creative platform that allows us to do that.

[00:10:32] We do personalization though today in absent of AI where we think it makes sense. And beer is very local and a lot of our partnerships, especially in the areas of sports and music are very local extensions of a brand.

[00:10:47] And so for example, if you're Miller Light and you're in the Dallas Fort Worth area, like Miller Light is the official bear of the Dallas Cowboys.

[00:10:55] So we do a lot of localized messaging and advertising, whether it's digital or what you see on shelf at retail through like some type of point of sale with Dallas Cowboys imagery or out of home advertising and around in the fall run during football season.

[00:11:12] And so that's one way to create personalization is kind of connecting the dots for the fan, like our association with that and kind of borrowing or drafting off the equity of the fan base.

[00:11:25] And we do that with teams in many markets across the country. We do the same in the music world too. We have partnerships with big festivals like Jazz Fest or Austin City Limits.

[00:11:38] And we've done customized packaging where we'll do primary packaging with some of the kind of markers of those individual events as well. And those things become a kind of resonate with consumers that are attending the events or maybe weren't able to attend the event, but want to be somehow kind of affiliated with it.

[00:11:56] And those go over really well. We did a promotion with Luke Combs, another big country music star for Miller Light. And on that we did a partnership with him where we actually put some, we created a custom Miller Light can with him, with his image on it. And that's a form of personalization.

[00:12:13] Personalization, though, it's not one-to-one personalization. I describe that as one-to-many, right? Kind of like tapping into a attitude, behavior, or interest of a consumer.

[00:12:24] I do think the next level in personalization is more of that one-to-one. But the line is where one-to-one can create value in terms of when it can be creepy, right?

[00:12:36] And so avoiding the creepiness of one-to-one is the risk that all marketers need to kind of understand where that line is and ensure that you don't cross over it because that's where consumers, you add risk to your brand.

[00:12:48] And I think you kind of potentially dissuade consumers when you get there.

[00:12:52] And nobody wants to feel like they're being watched.

[00:12:54] Exactly.

[00:12:55] So there's obviously a blurring of the lines between what is advertising and what is content. And when you're in a platform, let's say like TikTok or say Instagram Reels, traditional advertising just doesn't work.

[00:13:06] You have to be feeling native to the platform and the better.

[00:13:08] What are some of the types of content that you guys have created? And you've mentioned, obviously, these stars, which I'm sure make it easier.

[00:13:14] But what types of content does work with your audience? What are they looking for?

[00:13:18] Yeah, I mean, we try to adhere to the best practices of the platform.

[00:13:22] So we work really closely with our social media partners or even some of our other entertainment partners as well to look for ways at which our brands show up in a way that feels inherent to what are the best practices to drive or messaging on the platform.

[00:13:38] So a lot of shorts. And we've done a really nice job most recently in Meta's Reels product as well.

[00:13:45] We're creating, I would say, less polished type of advertising, but still really heavily branded opportunities that hopefully are entertaining to consumers and then drive some value to them when they're thinking about our category and our brands.

[00:14:02] And so there's no one way to do that, I don't think.

[00:14:06] And it's highly dependent on the brand.

[00:14:08] We launched a new brand this year, really targeted to that younger legal drinking age consumer, that 21 to 24 year old primarily brand called Happy Thursday.

[00:14:18] It was born out of an insight from social media, interestingly, in which you saw on social media consumers, right, through user generated content, were taking foaming wands to their hard seltzers to take the carbonation out of them.

[00:14:35] Interesting.

[00:14:36] Because the carbonation can bloat you or you get full faster drinking with carbonation.

[00:14:42] And people are looking for a beverage like that, but without the carbonation, also known as like a refresher, kind of like what Starbucks created.

[00:14:50] Yeah.

[00:14:50] And so we took that insight from social media and we created a brand called Happy Thursday, which was designed as a non-carbonated flavor forward refresher.

[00:15:03] And flavors that audience would be things like dragon fruit and other flavors that you would expect to see.

[00:15:10] Sure.

[00:15:10] And that kind of genre.

[00:15:12] And that's an example where social media can actually be an inspiration for brands in terms of the types of products they create.

[00:15:20] And then as we go back to market in terms of promoting them, really tapping into some of those culture cues or opportunities that are reflective of those particular audiences.

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[00:16:00] What's interesting is that at a lot of large companies like yours, just because that insight appeared, that behavior appeared in social media, it wouldn't necessarily always carry through to creating a new product.

[00:16:12] Correct.

[00:16:13] Right?

[00:16:13] So somebody somewhere at your organization had to have heard it and then actually took the baton and ran it all the way through.

[00:16:18] How did that come about?

[00:16:19] Yeah, no, I would say we have a world-class innovation team, right, that are always looking into what's going on in culture, trying to really see what is next on the horizon.

[00:16:32] Even looking at things that are maybe a year or two years out so that we can kind of get into the development slate on them.

[00:16:38] And so they're looking at all forms of inspiration, social media and how consumers behave on these platforms and the types of things that they're posting or what flavors or products that they may be interested in, maybe in adjacent categories, become inspiration for research and development and product development in the future.

[00:17:00] Very cool.

[00:17:00] So you mentioned earlier on-premise versus on-premise.

[00:17:03] Yeah.

[00:17:03] For those in the audience that don't know, on-premise essentially means like a bar.

[00:17:07] Correct.

[00:17:07] Off-premise means like a beer or a liquor store, you know, a convenience store where they sell beer.

[00:17:11] Yeah, grocery store.

[00:17:12] Yeah, exactly.

[00:17:13] How has that shift evolved over time?

[00:17:15] Obviously during COVID, there was really not much on-premise at all in terms of the consumption habits of the consumer.

[00:17:21] I think it's dependent on the type of consumer.

[00:17:24] For sure during COVID, when all the bars and restaurants closed down, everything went to off-premise.

[00:17:30] And in fact, it opened the door to e-commerce as well.

[00:17:35] And bars and restaurants in some states also, like they updated legislation at which those bars can actually sell alcohol to delivery, right?

[00:17:45] Or takeout or delivery.

[00:17:45] Or takeout or delivery, which was always a prohibited prior.

[00:17:48] And some of those laws and kind of changes in legislation have stuck since COVID.

[00:17:53] That behavior has kind of already become more widespread.

[00:17:56] And so I would say it is a combination of the occasion.

[00:18:01] I think bars and restaurants will always play a meaningful role in our category, especially as a source of discovery for consumers on new brands.

[00:18:12] Blue Moon is one of our brands.

[00:18:14] Blue Moon was born 25 years ago.

[00:18:17] It started as a brand that the long story short of it was it was a brand that was only offered at Coors Field.

[00:18:23] It became very popular.

[00:18:25] It was invented, actually, as part of a Coors Field beer called the Belly Slide.

[00:18:31] And then we started bringing it to the on-premise in and around Denver and Colorado.

[00:18:36] It was garnished with an orange.

[00:18:38] It was, at the time, very unusual to garnish a beer with an orange wedge.

[00:18:42] And that became the bar call and people started to notice the brand.

[00:18:46] And so on-premise, born and discovered in the on-premise.

[00:18:50] And then now, obviously, it's materialized into the off-premise channel as well.

[00:18:55] But a lot of brands, like in our category, it's very easy for someone that you see like the craft beer category in particular.

[00:19:03] You see what on tap.

[00:19:05] You kind of want to try something new.

[00:19:07] Very low risk to get one pint of beer and try something that you may not have heard of, like in an on-premise account.

[00:19:14] And if you love it, you'll kind of will go seek it out in off-premise channel like a grocery or liquor store.

[00:19:19] And that's still true to this day.

[00:19:21] But I would say there's definitely more volume because we sell a lot more pack sizes, etc.

[00:19:27] On off-premise channels like grocery or big shopper club-like stores.

[00:19:35] But that being said, on-premise is still a very important segment of how we sell.

[00:19:39] Yeah.

[00:19:40] Another important shift we've seen in recent years is just more interest in healthy alternatives or non-alcohol alternatives in your space.

[00:19:47] What are some of your plans and innovations in that area?

[00:19:50] There's even cannabis and THC infused beer as well.

[00:19:52] I don't know if whores plays in that space, but a lot of-

[00:19:54] We do not.

[00:19:55] You don't.

[00:19:55] Yeah, but a lot of large companies are looking at it right now as well as it becomes more legalized across the country.

[00:20:00] No, it's definitely something, again, our innovation team, I think, is always looking for ways to meet consumers' needs.

[00:20:08] And so non-alcoholic is something that is becoming more and more mainstream and available and more prominent.

[00:20:16] I would argue it's different in consumers' tastes.

[00:20:18] Like, not everyone wants to go out and drink beer with alcohol in it.

[00:20:22] And so we launched, like, a Blue Moon Zero Zero this year for the first time.

[00:20:29] It just tastes as great as a Blue Moon, but without the alcohol.

[00:20:31] We have Peroni Zero Zero as well competing in that space.

[00:20:35] And Coors Edge is another one.

[00:20:37] All non-alcoholic beer brands that I think continue to grow in terms of if you look at the category, still grow a lot of share in the category when people are looking for alternatives.

[00:20:48] When they go out with their friends, they don't want to drink, but they want to be part of the occasion.

[00:20:52] They'll look at that.

[00:20:53] And then on the other side, there's the non-alcoholic spirit side where you see more and more alcohol-free options that try to mimic the kind of experience of drinking a cocktail.

[00:21:04] Yeah.

[00:21:04] And that's definitely a space by which we have a lot of interest in as well.

[00:21:08] Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you're from a liquid death.

[00:21:10] I mean, what they've done is amazing in terms of it's water.

[00:21:12] It's water.

[00:21:12] But it looks like a beer.

[00:21:14] And that's great marketing.

[00:21:15] Yeah.

[00:21:15] You got to give them credit for that.

[00:21:16] Yeah, I mean, packaging matters a lot, especially when you talk about craft beers.

[00:21:19] Why would somebody try it?

[00:21:20] Is they're like, oh, that looks interesting.

[00:21:22] The packaging and our name.

[00:21:23] Yeah, the name.

[00:21:24] Yeah, correct.

[00:21:24] Which is really interesting.

[00:21:25] So let's shift gears here, Brad, to you as we wrap up here.

[00:21:28] You've been working at Molson Coors for 15 years.

[00:21:31] You started as a senior media manager.

[00:21:33] Yeah.

[00:21:33] Probably feels like lifetimes ago.

[00:21:35] It does.

[00:21:35] And you've stayed there and kind of worked your way up the chain.

[00:21:37] Yep.

[00:21:37] How have you evolved as a professional to basically be able to keep pace and continue to elevate your role and stature at a company like Molson Coors?

[00:21:47] Yeah, I would say I have a huge appetite for curiosity.

[00:21:52] Right.

[00:21:52] And I like to expose myself to a lot of different types of things that are going on in the industry in my category or other categories to inspire things that we can do.

[00:22:04] And so I've been fortunate in my tenure at Molson Coors where I've been able to look at the outside, see what others are doing or see where marketing is going.

[00:22:14] Sure.

[00:22:15] And bring that back to the company and be able to go to our leadership and say, hey, I'm noticing a sizable shift in big companies such as ours are building in-house creative agencies.

[00:22:27] And I built a whole business case about building in-house creative agency and had the leadership say, go do it.

[00:22:33] Go build us an in-house creative agency.

[00:22:35] Go build us an in-house creative agency and we're going to be able to do that.

[00:23:05] What first party data or what data strategy means for a company such as ours.

[00:23:09] And we have thousands of touch points with consumers.

[00:23:12] How are we not kind of like looking for ways and huge fans of our brands?

[00:23:17] I mean, people put tattoos of our logos on their bodies, right?

[00:23:21] So they love our brand.

[00:23:23] Do you have an act on your body?

[00:23:24] No, I do not.

[00:23:24] Okay.

[00:23:25] But people do.

[00:23:26] I've seen them.

[00:23:26] We are live, so I could ask them right now, but we're not going to.

[00:23:29] Yes.

[00:23:31] But I would say that, like, so I said, here's what we need to build a first party data strategy.

[00:23:35] Here's the structure I need, the team I need dedicated to do that.

[00:23:39] And I've been fortunate enough to have leaders say, all right, go do that.

[00:23:43] Go build that.

[00:23:44] So that to me is where having like leadership that really understands what you bring to the table and very open with the right support for it really kind of gives you the opportunity to do that.

[00:23:56] And that obviously is why I've been able to grow in my career.

[00:24:00] And a lot of what you talked about is really predicated on you having your ear to the ground in terms of what's happening with your category and industry.

[00:24:08] What are some of the ways that you do that?

[00:24:10] I know a lot of people in this industry.

[00:24:11] I'm very connected to, I like to meet people.

[00:24:14] I've gone to a lot of industry dinners where I don't know anyone else around the table, but I'll sit there and kind of introduce myself and meet people and kind of hear what they are doing.

[00:24:24] One of the benefits of being in kind of a media role too is that you're connected with all these different media companies.

[00:24:32] And they're inviting you to everything.

[00:24:33] They know me, I know them.

[00:24:35] So they introduce me to people and I get to meet people.

[00:24:38] I participate in industry trade groups like the ANA and the MMA.

[00:24:44] And so those also open up the opportunity and door for me to kind of hear what others are doing.

[00:24:50] So that gives me it kind of like that way you described, like kind of my ear to the ground to understand what's available.

[00:24:55] Very cool.

[00:24:56] So to wrap up here, is there a saying or mantra you like to live by, Brad?

[00:25:02] It's a good question.

[00:25:04] I wouldn't say a mantra, but there's like a quote that I've heard.

[00:25:07] And I honestly don't know who it was attributed to, but I keep like a list of quotes in my notes on my phone.

[00:25:13] That's cool.

[00:25:13] And one of them was, marketing is not a science.

[00:25:19] It's an art that sells, which I really love that idea of, even though I'm very much on the science side of marketing,

[00:25:27] one of the things that always attracted me to this industry from the start was the art part of it.

[00:25:33] And so you can't science everything into marketing.

[00:25:38] There really is the art piece of it.

[00:25:40] And I truly believe that.

[00:25:42] And it's how you bring those things together that becomes the magic of what we do.

[00:25:46] Yeah.

[00:25:46] I mean, we are emotional beings.

[00:25:48] We're not always rational.

[00:25:50] And we're buying things that are more expensive than others because we feel some type of emotional connection.

[00:25:54] And emotion is driven through art.

[00:25:56] It's not always driven through science.

[00:25:57] Yes, that's right.

[00:25:58] Yeah.

[00:25:58] So I want to thank you for taking the time here during a busy, meaty week in New York to join us.

[00:26:03] It was a great conversation.

[00:26:04] I can't wait for our listeners to hear it.

[00:26:06] Thank you.

[00:26:06] Absolutely.

[00:26:07] On behalf of Susie and Adweek team, thanks again to Brad Feinberg, the North American VP of Media and Consumer Engagement at Molson Coors for joining us today.

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