The Future of Streaming & Storytelling: Rebecca Kent on Warner Bros. Discovery’s Next Chapter

[00:00:01] I think where it's headed is really about consumer choice. What's really important to a company like Warner Bros. Discovery is meeting consumers where they are. To thrive in a rapidly evolving landscape, brands must move at an ever increasing pace. I'm Matt Britton, founder and CEO of Suzy. Join me and key industry leaders as we dive deep into the shifting consumer trends within their industry, why it matters now, and how you can keep up. Welcome to The Speed of Culture.

[00:00:34] Up today live from CES in Las Vegas, we are thrilled to be welcome Rebecca Kemp. Rebecca is the SVP of Global Transformation for Warner Bros. Discovery, a relatively new role that came about when the two companies came together. Rebecca is super focused on strategy, transformation and leadership in the ever emerging media and entertainment space. Rebecca, so great to see you. Rebecca Kemp Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. Rebecca Kemp Yeah, so we were just talking during the onset that you are based in Sydney, Australia, and the rest of your team is all in America.

[00:01:00] Rebecca Kemp So what is that like? Like, are you up at all hours of the night? How are you able to pull that off? Rebecca Kemp Yeah, I'm very fortunate. I feel so fortunate that I'm able to do this. But yeah, I am basically doing a US role from Sydney, Australia. And while it does mean I get up early, I'm an early bird, so that's fine with me. It's really great because the rest of the team kind of respects that. And so they know if they're going to meet with me, they do it in their afternoon. I do it in my early morning. We make it work. Rebecca Kemp That's awesome. How did it come about?

[00:01:27] Rebecca Kemp I would say something from the pandemic. So kind of, I don't think I would have been able to do this prior to the pandemic. Rebecca Kemp Yeah. Rebecca Kemp But I think the pandemic showed that we can really engage virtually. Rebecca Kemp 100%. Rebecca Kemp 100%. Rebecca Kemp 100%. Rebecca Kemp 100%. As long as you are willing to get up early, which I am, then everything's usually over video conference these days anyway. And we have offices all over the US. So often I'm on video calls with people who might be in New York and LA and Atlanta and Seattle. So the fact that I'm in Australia doesn't really impede those meetings because we're all virtual anyway.

[00:01:57] Rebecca Kemp Yeah. Does it all involve a lot of travel? Rebecca Kemp I do a lot of travel. Luckily, I love business travel. So it's not a problem. I'm probably in the US every two months. Rebecca Kemp Gotcha. So the media and entertainment space, especially in the world of streaming, has just been dizzying in terms of the amount of change and fragmentation and choice, etc. For those in the audience who don't know exactly what Warner Brothers Discovery is, can you describe the company for us? Rebecca Kemp Oh, wow. What a big question. Describing the company of Warner Brothers Discovery.

[00:02:25] So we are a media and entertainment company that spans everything from film to television studios to television networks to streaming to in-person experiences such as studio tours to gaming to news with CNN and sports with TNT. And we have a really big global presence as well. We're operating in most markets around the world, doing some form of those. And what are some of your most popular media brands?

[00:02:52] Rebecca Kemp I've mentioned a couple. Definitely Warner Brothers in terms of film. Max in terms of streaming. Rebecca Kemp Which is HBO. Rebecca Kemp Yeah. Rebecca Kemp Yeah. CNN, TNT. Rebecca Kemp Wow. So that's a bad, you're right. It is a lot. And ultimately at its core, it's an entertainment company that is focused on content and experiences for consumers. Right? And the way that consumers have consumed content has really changed over time. You know, it wasn't too long ago where when I was growing up, at least, it was a couple major broadcast TV shows.

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[00:04:01] Rebecca Kemp Which is a little bit of a comeback, at least in 2024. Rebecca Kemp I hope it does. And I hope it does for many years to come because I think there's nothing more beautiful than that cinema experience. Rebecca Kemp But if that's how you want to consume cinematic content, then we'll be there as well. If you're someone who wants to consume content still on television, which some people still do, then we're there for you in television. So it's really about providing that choice to consumers that depending how you want to consume our content, we'll make sure we're there.

[00:04:27] And in terms of choice, one of the trends that have occurred, at least in a streaming space, is this sort of ad supported model versus paid model. Is that kind of how you look at giving consumers choice in that realm? And are you going deeper into the advertising supported land moving forward based upon success of so many other streaming platforms?

[00:04:47] Rebecca Kemp Yeah. Again, that's a choice. That's more of a choice about price point, right? Are you someone who's more price sensitive, so would prefer to pay a lower price and consume ads in order to do that? Or are you someone who's not so price sensitive and who really hates ads and so is willing to pay to not have that ad experience? Rebecca Hines Again, it's about giving choice to consumers about where they want to kind of land in terms of pricing.

[00:05:08] Rebecca Hines Yeah. And in terms of the business model behind the ad model, there's so many interesting things that you guys are doing to be able to drive engagement for your advertisers. For so long, the notion of attribution and targeting wasn't really possible through the TV screen.

[00:05:24] Rebecca Hines And now, the fact that you can go direct to consumer gives you so much optionality and gives the advertiser so much flexibility. Where are you guys leaning in there in terms of making sure that you have a really competitive product in the marketplace to deliver on the needs of advertisers? Rebecca Hines Yeah. So you're exactly right. It has changed a lot over the years. Rebecca Hines And again, we talked about choice for consumers. I guess we're giving more choice to advertisers now that you can kind of be with us in different spaces compared to where you could in the past.

[00:05:54] Rebecca Hines And there's a few things we're doing in this space. We launched the shoppable ads with Max, which have been really great. Rebecca Hines That's fascinating. Rebecca Hines Yeah. That's about providing contextual advertising to our audiences. So if you're someone who's watching a holiday baking show, you're probably more likely to be inspired to watch something related to the holidays or related to baking than you would kind of any other product at that time. And so we want to give advertisers the opportunity to be in those contextual places.

[00:06:20] Rebecca Hines So such a big company, so many things going on, and the role of global transformation is a big role. How are you spending your time at the company? Define what the role is and what success looks like for you in 2025. Rebecca Hines Yeah. The role changes depending on the nature of the business, which is one of the things I think is beautiful about a role like transformation. What the business wants to transform differs year to year. Rebecca Hines Of course. Or even quarter to quarter. Rebecca Hines Yeah. Rebecca Hines Heaven forbid, but yes, you're right.

[00:06:47] Rebecca Hines So it's really about doing what the business needs are at the time. So when the companies first merged, I did a lot of work looking at the merger activities and kind of how we bring the companies together. Now we're in a different era. I'm doing a lot of around data and looking at how we can really use data along with emerging technologies to kind of leapfrog it and move the business forward.

[00:07:06] Rebecca Hines So when you're doing that, I imagine when you're looking at data, you're kind of uncovering certain insights about the business. Is that in the realm of viewing data or in terms of trends with consumers, in terms of new genres of shows that they're trying to look at? Rebecca Hines Yeah. I'm really interested definitely in consumer data. And we mentioned kind of at the start of the podcast about the many different business lives that we have. So we have lots of different customer data across these different business lives. And so I'm interested in how do we bring that together?

[00:07:36] Rebecca Hines How do we kind of serve our customers better? I'm interested with some of the emerging technologies coming out about how we can personalize experiences for our customers and also look at our customer across business lines. So taking an example, if you're a customer of Max, how do we understand you well? How do we personalize the experience for you in Max? But are you also a customer of us in other areas? Rebecca Hines Can you also go to the cinema or do you also involved in some of our gaming products? That's really interesting to look at how we can kind of link customers across business.

[00:08:06] Rebecca Hines So we're very much in our infancy along here, but I'm very interested in how we can use customer data. Rebecca Hines Yeah. And speaking of Max, I mean, the whole TV kind of ecosystem and industrial complex of you is so complicated because you have companies like yours that create and stream content. You have the component manufacturers like Samsung that have their own fast channels and they have their apps integrated.

[00:08:29] Rebecca Hines And then you have the Amazons and Apples and Googles that have their own third-party dongles and platforms they stream over. So I would imagine a big part of your organization, at least when it comes to streaming in the home, is just dealing with all these partners and understanding where you fit in the midst of all that. Rebecca Hines Yeah. Partnerships are really, really important across the whole ecosystem when it comes to something like this. So we have partners in the production space who are really important to us. We have partners in the distribution space, which is what you're talking about.

[00:08:59] Rebecca Hines Yeah. With partners in the advertising space. It's really all about the whole ecosystem and partnerships are super important along that. Rebecca Hines Yeah. Another thing that you guys have is some really amazing IP, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones. Rebecca Hines Yeah. So how do you look to kind of leverage that IP as kind of a competitive differentiator? Rebecca Hines Yeah. We love our IP. We feel very strongly about it. Rebecca Hines Yeah. Rebecca Hines And it is an important differentiator. So we really nurture that. We try to look after our brands.

[00:09:28] Rebecca Hines Yeah. We really try to look after our franchises. And we're also interested in how we can deepen fan experiences with these brands and franchises. So you mentioned Harry Potter. Rebecca Hines Yeah. Rebecca Hines Yeah. That kind of started for us with the films many years ago. But now we have these fantastic studio tours around the world. And most recently, we launched one in Japan. Rebecca Hines Yeah, I heard about that. Rebecca Hines That's about a really deep, rich fan experience for our kind of fans in Japan. We have retail stores around with Harry Potter. We have partnerships.

[00:09:57] Rebecca Hines Licensing business. Rebecca Hines Exactly. All really about deepening fans' engagement with that particular IP. And so we try and do that across our major franchises about if you are a deep fan of our product, how can we really serve you in lots of different interesting words?

[00:10:15] Rebecca Hines Yeah. I mean, people just get obsessive about these sorts of things. And now online, you can connect with communities on places like Reddit. And if you build IP that really captures people's imagination, they have kind of an insatiable appetite in ways that they want to interact with it. Rebecca Hines Yeah. Rebecca Hines So figuring out how to actually unlock all those things for the customer, I imagine, is a huge opportunity.

[00:10:36] Rebecca Hines Yeah, it is. It's really interesting. And then kind of linking that back to what we said earlier about customer data. How do we kind of find out more about those deep fans and what they want? Rebecca Hines We'll be right back with the Speed of Culture after a few words from our sponsors. Rebecca Hines How do you guys look at just the overall consumer segmentations? You almost serve everybody. But when you guys look at if you're going to invest in IP, or you're going to invest in a new show, or is it we know that these are our four core demos that we can really win in?

[00:11:06] Rebecca Hines A bit of both. It really depends on what we're talking about. Rebecca Hines Right. Rebecca Hines Yeah, in terms of whether we need to service everybody. And sometimes you do, or whether we don't. Rebecca Hines Right. Rebecca Hines We can just service a kind of niche. Rebecca Hines Yeah, because like a company like yours, it's like, I would imagine one challenge is just focus. You know, because it's such a broad surface area. How do you know where to double down and really truly win in? And sometimes it's driven by the consumer. Sometimes it's driven by, I guess, the existing assets you have. But I would think that's a big part of the strategy.

[00:11:35] Rebecca Hines Yeah. And I think it's something we're really good at, honestly. It's focusing and prioritizing against all that noise. Rebecca Hines Yeah, sure. One cultural shift that obviously I know that you're focused on is the globalization of content, right? So content's globalized. I traveled throughout the summer. And it was just incredible to see how much American content is just so popular there. And content travels everywhere. You look at Taylor Swift and the success of her show. And, you know, so how is globalizing content brought to life through some of the things you're doing?

[00:12:04] Rebecca Hines I imagine there's huge growth opportunities ever around the world, given the assets you have.

[00:12:09] Rebecca Hines Yeah. And what I love about a lot of the assets we have is they do travel really well. So you talked about Game of Thrones, you know, Friends. If we talk about Harry Potter, if we talk about our DC universe, a lot of these are really universal and can travel to lots of different markets around the world. So I'm always excited by that. A bit like you, I love to see our brands in other parts of the world. But a shift that I'm kind of interested in, and again, I think kind of new technology is helping us with this,

[00:12:36] is that's all kind of America out to the world. We also produce content in some local markets. So I'd love to be able to bring more of that to American audiences. Trevor Burrus In terms of how consumers are watching and consuming your shows, are there any notable shifts in terms of them watching it? I know it's all about choice, but are they watching more on their phone now, less on the TV? You know, we mentioned the movie theater, like from a zooming out perspective,

[00:13:02] where is the new consumer, I guess, at right now in terms of how they want to interact with your content? Yeah, I think a lot is around generational lives. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense, right. Gen Z all about the phone. Exactly. I'm showing my age, probably saying that I love to go to the cinema, but it is around those generational lives. Yeah. And whether you see viewing, and this could differ depending on your mood, but whether you see viewing as a solo experience in which you're happy to watch it kind of on your phone, in your bedroom, or on your laptop,

[00:13:30] or you're seeing it as a co-viewing experience in which you want to share it with another person or persons, or whether you see it as a more immersive experience, in which case you want to go to the cinema, and that does tend to kind of broadly go across generational lives. Yeah. And speaking of immersion, I mean, I feel like consumers just can't get enough immersion stuff. I don't know if you're in the sphere here in Las Vegas, but it's just such an incredible experience in terms of how it immerses you, whether it's a concert or a movie you're watching there. And then you have these VR headsets that kind of immerse you.

[00:14:00] And there's a new concept in Los Angeles called Cosm for watching live sports, which is kind of like a sphere-type experience. So TVs keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger. So it's almost like when you have great content, whether it's sports, whether it's something like Harry Potter or Game of Thrones, at least the American consumer just wants more of it. Bigger, more, louder. And I wonder if there's a breaking point to that, but I guess maybe not, because soon they'll be in games. It'll be like, they will be a character in it. Yeah. It's fascinating to see.

[00:14:27] And what I find fascinating about it is we're talking about two trends that seem to be kind of counterintuitive to each other. So we've talked about people watching on their mobile solo and having a very kind of that experience versus a whole immersive experience. And both seem to be growing. So I think perhaps they are complementary to each other, that maybe you get sick of watching things alone on your phone and you want to be completely immersed.

[00:14:53] Or a lot of people talk about short-term kind of attention spans these days. Is it that an immersive experience, you really don't want to pick up your phone because you're so immersed in the experience? And is it actually a way to ensure that you're not kind of second screening? I mean, that's another trend that we see, right, that we didn't see 10 years ago is people watching content at home, but then also perhaps being on their phone.

[00:15:16] Especially for natural like live sports and live award shows where they want to feel like they have their finger on the pulse of what's going on and build community around it. That tends to work really well. Yeah. Versus if it's time shifted, maybe slightly less so. Yeah, exactly. But if someone's in a real immersed experience going through one of our Harry Potter studio tours, they're very unlikely to also be trying to see what's on TikTok. If anything, they're trying to take videos and photos of themselves. Totally. So that they can spread it on social media. So it's a different experience. Yeah.

[00:15:46] Shifting gears a little bit to you. I mean, I imagine given how rapidly evolving your industry is, given that you are in-city and people are everywhere and it's such a big company, like it's not easy to drive transformation. Like it's not as easy as it was if you were walking to an office with 10 people every day, right? What have been some of the strategies that you've been able to deploy throughout your career and now that are able to make impact in terms of working with other people, getting them to embrace change, getting them to embrace transformation?

[00:16:14] Yeah, no matter what the transformation is, it really comes back to the basics. If you need to bring people along the journey, people need to feel like they are being part of the journey. First being told what to do. Yeah, rather than having someone come in and say, sorry, we're going to change and you need to change now. Let's bring them in. Let's bring them in and make them feel like they are part of forming that change. And often some people give that lip service of, oh yeah, you can ask them, but we already have it in mind. No, actually bring them in because they probably have great ideas about how to move along.

[00:16:44] That change curve. It also helps with them. Everybody feels a little bit apprehensive at first when we have to change. But if you bring people in, ask their opinion, genuinely want to hear from them, then they start to feel like, okay, I'm now part of the change. And then they move from that apprehension to more leaning in with it. And then it is really about making sure that at the end, you know what goal you're kind of heading towards and being really clear about that with people so that they understand what it is you're heading towards and why.

[00:17:14] And I think no matter what it is, I follow those kind of principles all around the world to kind of make transformation happen. Are you sometimes thoughtful about how many people you'll bring into a project? Because sometimes I find the more people that are there, the less gets done. And there's this famous quote I love, in all your towns and all your cities are under statutes of committees. Because it's like the committees bog everything down and everybody just likes to hear themselves talk. Like at least that's what I've found in large groups.

[00:17:43] How do you feel about like the right amount of people to really make progress on a project in the transformation realm? Yeah, I think it depends. Are you asking people to help you do the change? Are you just asking them to give their thoughts on the change that is already going to happen? Because that's different. So the people who actually need to do the work, I agree with you, smaller is usually better. Otherwise, it can get unwieldy.

[00:18:07] But in terms of making people kind of brought into the journey, aware of it, feeling like they can have some input, I'd rather cast that net wide. Yeah. And what are some of the groups that you find yourselves working within the broader organization that you need to partner with to get some of the big changes done that you know need to happen? Literally everybody. Wow. Like I find myself working with sales, working with product, working with content, working with all the back office functions. They're also hugely important.

[00:18:36] So working with finance, working with HR, working with technology. There really isn't a group that isn't important in a lot of the transformation work we've done. So how do you spend your time? I imagine no two days are quite alike. But how do you spend your time keeping your finger on the pulse of the consumer so you understand what the key initiatives and mandates that make sense for you to lean into to really drive impact for you? Yeah. Look, it's a great question because I think there is a risk of a role like this of you becoming too internal focused.

[00:19:04] And really, you do need to remain external focused. Right. So what's happening out there in the market? Stockholm Syndrome, they say, well, you just lose touch with everything that's happening. Exactly. What are your consumers asking for? What are the trends? You really want to keep kind of on top of that. Yeah. And so I make a conscious effort to do that. So I read a ton. I speak to a ton of people. I go to events because I want to keep externally focused and not too internally focused on the change we're trying to make happen.

[00:19:28] And there's situations sometimes where something within your portfolio of content or assets just starts bubbling up that maybe you didn't expect. And then because maybe something happened in culture, like what comes to mind is I know this was on your network, like the Menendez brothers on Netflix was like a documentary that like it captivated people. And all of a sudden, everyone started talking about it. And it became like in the pop culture zeitgeist. And I don't know, but I would imagine Netflix probably didn't assume that was going to happen before it happened. And then they had to react to it.

[00:19:58] Do you find that happens in your organization where you'll put something out there, whether it's Squid Games or Succession or something that you put out there and maybe it becomes so much of a bigger hit than you thought and you have to quickly jump on it? Yeah. And what a wonderful problem. It is a wonderful problem. Right. Not at all. Right. But then to actually do it for a big organization and move fast across all the different departments you work on and instantly start rowing the boat in a different direction, I can imagine might not always be easy. I think we actually have that muscle.

[00:20:28] You do. That's great. To do that. We really do. And I think that's just part of the transformation that we did when we brought the companies together was to break down silos so that we can work across. So if something starts to really hit in the TV network space, how does everyone else jump on board? Or if something starts to really bubble up in the streaming world, how does everyone kind of jump on board? Barbie was a great example of that. Yeah. That was a fantastic film hit, but we were also doing things on our TV networks to support that. We're also doing stuff in streaming.

[00:20:57] Yeah, it was all over the place. And that was really deliberate. So I think we do have that muscle kind of ready to go to jump on those opportunities. Yeah. I was speaking with Julian Jacobs from UTA yesterday. They always tell me about the partnership they forged between Chevrolet and Barbie and how successful it was by putting their brand really in the center of a huge cultural moment. And it's a great example of how you have a property like that and how it can really help boost advertisers who really want to capture the attention of their end consumer. Exactly. So what was the merger like?

[00:21:27] Because it was such a big news story when they came out, when two companies came together. What's it like being on the inside of something like that? Like all of a sudden you have all these new colleagues and new leaders. Like just I'm curious like what that was like and being part of it. Yeah, it was wonderful. It was fantastic. A real kind of career moment. Yeah, I'm sure. And it's all those emotions. It is excitement. It is. Wow. I meet all these new colleagues. It's great. But then naturally there's a lot of hesitation and there's a lot of kind of uncertainty around that too.

[00:21:53] And so what I really tried to do in my role is try to help the business through that period of uncertainty. It sounds like a lot of leadership skills and teamwork development skills and just people skills are incredibly important in doing what you're doing. It is a people. Yeah. It is a people problem. That's what we're trying to do. And I'm trying to transform a business. But ultimately it's trying to kind of help people along the transformation journey. Absolutely.

[00:22:16] So when you look back on your career and you've been at a lot of great places and this is such a cool role that you're in now, what were some of the things that you focused on along the way ever since you know you entered the workforce that put you in a position to be in a role that you're in today? Yeah, I've done a lot of different roles across the years and I've worked in lots of different countries. And I think what's really the advice I would give someone looking at how do I get to that is say yes. Yes.

[00:22:44] So when given an opportunity to take on a new project or to do a different type of role or to be involved in something, say yes. Even if at the onset you're thinking, I don't know. I don't know. You're scared when you said yes. Often. Right. I'm not sure I know enough about this or I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy this or if I don't like it, how am I going to step back from this? But if I didn't take on those different roles, if I didn't take those risks, I wouldn't be where I am today. So I absolutely think say yes and then if things don't work out, deal with that then.

[00:23:13] Yeah, I think it's great advice. I think so many people have imposter syndrome or they just, we're all making it up as we go along. That's the reality is, especially in this world. So it's like you ultimately have to just have confidence in yourself. Yeah, back yourself, right? Yeah. Yeah. And bet on your future self and put yourself in a position to win. And then as long as you're working hard and you're well-intentioned, good things normally happen. So to wrap up here, we always ask our guests, is there a saying or mantra that guides your professional journey that comes to mind? Yeah, it is. Change is the only constant. Yes, indeed.

[00:23:41] And I take that in my professional life and it's very much applied to the media industry, but I also take it in my personal life. Things change all the time. Plans change. So you've got to roll with it. It's the only constant. Yeah. In some ways, it's what keeps life interesting, right? Exactly. Awesome. Well, I want to thank you for joining us today amidst your busy schedule at CES and now. Big company, lots of initiatives, Trevor Louis from Australia. I'm really appreciative of taking the time. Thanks, Matt. It's great. Absolutely. On behalf of Susie and I, we keen.

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